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00 b "On the contrary I feel convinced that this big gap will once be filled by & long complicate series of culture stages. This is a very Important point. Western archeolog ts are inelined to believe that the high civilisation started in the Near East, /Egypt» Tegopotamlia/, and that the Far East received the painted pottery relatively Jate in the tnird millenium b. Oh gon dan för SM eter quality...
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00 b "On the contrary I feel convinced that this big gap will once be filled by & long complicate series of culture stages. This is a very Important point. Western archeolog ts are inelined to believe that the high civilisation started in the Near East, /Egypt» Tegopotamlia/, and that the Far East received the painted pottery relatively Jate in the tnird millenium b. Oh gon dan för SM eter quality of the Honan Yang Shao, being egquallsd by no other late Neolithic culture, I feel Tnat we ougnt to be very cereful in our dating of the Yang Shao culture. With advancing knowieåge our present opinions may be revised and the Far East given more prominence as fer as priority of culture is concerned. Sö An Yang is s not AEneol&thic but full bronge-age. In the use ER by western archeologets to the term AEneolithic, An Yang cannot be ka 50 EF judge from the advahced types and variety of bronge vessels and arms, togetrer with tie wonderful ivory carvings An Yang Fe full bronse age. Dear. Doctor Ting,/a modest effort to contribute to the eluecidating of very important but still obscure cutural problems, I have given you the above notes, I em sorry that we could not meet and discuss these points personally before we go to publish on these guestions. At any rate I offer you my humble remarkes with fullslliberty för you to-make such use of them as. you ehose proper. | . få VA I will very soon return to yeu the An Yang material belonging to Mr. Lo Chen Yi. FS with kindest regards Yours very truly MA
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Ota Stockholm the 23th July 1931. Dr V.X, Ting The National Geologicel Survey of China, 3 Fengsheng-Futung W Peliping, China. Dear Doctor Ting, I berewith have the pleasure to forward to you a small c...
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Ota Stockholm the 23th July 1931. Dr V.X, Ting The National Geologicel Survey of China, 3 Fengsheng-Futung W Peliping, China. Dear Doctor Ting, I berewith have the pleasure to forward to you a small consign- ment of copies from our photographic negeatives, I very much regret that dur photographic work has been very slow during all this year. The reason is very simple, the young man who 1s our photographer has been absent and 1e atill so on milltary duty, What little we have been eble to do kas been executed by my two lady secretarles, who in addtttion to thelr ordinary duties had to do a considersble amount of photograppic work whieh allowed no delay and whienh was complegted just before the two ladies left office tne first of July for a months vacation. When they are back in the begin= ning of Auzust, we will do our very best to copy for you tre big lot still remaining, including the copies about wnich you have written to Professor Karlgren. Long time ago you sent me a copy of Pöåre Teilhard”s note on the Neolithic problems of China, Furthermore you have nhinted in vour letters from time to time about certain ideas which you are golng to present in your book on the History of the Chinese Civilisation, I have repeatedly gone over these matters with the intention of writing to you to explain my views, However, my own book "China before
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0109 b History" being delayed because of continues illhelth, I have hesitated to write you on these ratner difficult toplies. Here after all, allow me to ex- plain my views: le Ihe Stone-ege in Mongol...
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0109 b History" being delayed because of continues illhelth, I have hesitated to write you on these ratner difficult toplies. Here after all, allow me to ex- plain my views: le Ihe Stone-ege in Mongolia and in China. Apart from the discoveries made by Teilhard and Licent in the Ordos desert, which are beyond any doubt, I suppose that the finds made by Nelson and other”s of the American expedi- tion in the Gobi desert and in Eastern Mongolia belong to the late Palaeo- lithic, the Xesolithie and the early Neolithic. However, I must call your attention to tre fact that Nelson's dating of his earliest groups is based not upon positive Palaeolithic characters of the material, but mostly upön . the absence of pottery, This is undoubtedly a weak point, especially since Leaky”s important discoveries in Eastern Africa have prodved that potte > occurred sparingliy as (tue younger Palaeolitric. I have a special reason to be exceedingly cautious about the dating of desert material, since during my Kansu journey I repeatedly stumbled Over mistakes in the way of dating my finds. åt Kokonor and several other localities I found sites with very crude stone implements indivating at first sight a Palaeolithic age. However, during my continued srivettons I always discovered painted potsherås of Yang Shao types Fr RE AROS iple OA some of these sites are older than Yang Shrae (faterial. But the fe evidence makes it more probable that they actually belong to tne Yang Shao period. Ky above note is given only to show that evidence such as that . presented by Nelson should be accepted only with great caution. His Stru- tiolithus sho keföranenän da. no decisive evidence, as we found fossil Strutiolithus shells in the culture stratum at Yang Shao Teun, 20 Ihe older Neolithic in China. As far as our present knowledge goes it looks as if there were Pelaeolithic, Mesolithic and older Neolithic in Mongolia, but not in China proper, I have not the < gntest doubt thatås - due only to our very imperfect knowledge and that Neolithic sites much older than Yang Shao will be found in China proper. In this connection I
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-2- Ol0 a refer to a chapter "the Neolithic hiatus" in my preliminary report from Kansu. After the deposition of the loess but before the Yang Shao period there was in Höthåvei China & very constderab...
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-2- Ol0 a refer to a chapter "the Neolithic hiatus" in my preliminary report from Kansu. After the deposition of the loess but before the Yang Shao period there was in Höthåvei China & very constderable erosion, resulting in the formation of gorges and ullies. It is beyond doubt that Mesolithie and early Neolitnhic Man 1ived in Northern Chine during this period of erosion. It seems guite probable that the erosion itself caused a wholesale destruction of these early sites. Without proper regard to the physilographic changes the early history of Northern China cannot be fully understood. 8 IE The occurrence of a Yang Shao potsherdd at An Yang. I know that äsbulbve has found a painted potsherd, apparently of Yang Shao age, during his exeavation in the An Yang site. To my mind it 18 very probable that the Yang Shao potsherd is very much older than the An Yang depostt. During my own excavation I-repeatediy found such oldet relics aceftdentaly incorpo= a töd Mt. LILA itögo VÄTET Héd. Rak Ona ntlekiäDe been peta to these diffe- Fincss in:age, much confusion :had been the resulter, . EN Yang Sbao = Esia Avnasty, I noted än one of your letters that you held it for possible that the Yang Shao period 1s identical with the Hsia dynasty of your historical records, I very well understand your trend of thought. All efforts tö identify actual Esia sites have so far been in vain. But the Yang Shao sites are very abundent. Under these circumstances it is near at hand to interpret the known Yang Shao sites as village sites of the Esia times St4ll; I fear that such a conclusion may be fatally misf$leading. From historical records we know next to nothing about the Hsia-tSime, but, considering that the following. dynasty, Shang, presented the Chinese civilisation ready in 1t”s main features, it seems safe to assume: that Hsia was not too far from Shang in it's stage of development. Between the Shang dynasty, as represented by 1t”s final stages, An Yang, and the purely Neolithic Yang Shao culture there is e very big gap, and I hold it for quite unlikely that this gap was filled by a single åynasty
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Mottagen av Ding Wenjiang (V. K. Ting).
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